My guest on this one is Joel Hawbaker (here’s his website), who is an educator, leadership-developer, and remarried dad in Alabama. I talk about this a little in the intro, but Joel and I had this convo scheduled two other times, and I missed the initial ones, including once for day drinking. I’m now kicking myself for that, because when we finally did connect, which you get the result of here, it’s a really nice 34-minute or so convo about leaders, young men growing up, negative traits, positive outcomes, divorce and remarriage, blended families, humility, forgiveness, and a lot more. I’m proud of this one. Dive on in.